Кто что знает о ваз2109 балтика

[ZZ-top 182]

2 manni

Welcome on our forum

Glad to see LADA owners from other countries here. This topic is about car Lada 21093 Baltic (also called Lada Eurosamara), which was produced in Finland at factory Valmet Automotive.

In the our country some believe that LADA Eurosamara were produced not only with fuel-injected engine but also with carbureted engine.

Others argue that there were also models LADA Eurosamara with motor 1.7. Maybe you have reliable information and you can confirm or deny these approval? And another question, LADA Eurosamara were ever equipped by air conditioning at factory?

PS. I am also a LADA Eurosamara owner. Couple 2010 pictures of my car you can view there

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Изменено 7 января, 2011 пользователем ZZ-top

[manni 0]

Hi,

I'll reply to ZZ-top's post.

My car is actually "Samara Baltic". It should have been sold to Germany, but my father bought it from the factory, it was sold with much lower price than it should be. That's very usual story with Eurosamara's bought in Finland. The car was very good but it was a way too expensive. At the same time Volkswagen Group invested in Skoda and they made Felicia model. It was 100 % western car with similiar price tag to Eurosamara, which was just a facelifted eastern car.

In the end of production there were many cars that hasn't been sold and they were all sold with a big discount. At that price, Eurosamara was a very good value for money.

Every Eurosamara were equipped with 1,5 litre Samara engine (related to 1,3 litre engine) and every one of them were equipped with GM injection (not the Bosch injection as Samara models from year 2000). They were also multi point injections like GM but Bosch models had a few extra power. It's very common belief within Finnish Lada fans that GM models are more reliable and they work better in lower temperatures (like winter). GM models also are consuming a bit less.

There was not any model with even optional air conditioning. But there was something else. My dad was working in Valmet Automotive when they were developing Eurosamara. Dad was in the development team. They even built one prototype with sunroof. It was the same element used in 1st series of Renault Twingo. Eurosamara with open top is kinda exotic

Btw, I'll going to have the original alloy wheels of Eurosamara for the next summer!

Изменено 7 января, 2011 пользователем manni

[spri07 0]

разницы нет и та и эта не едут !

[manni 0]

Is there a lot of Lada/VAZ enthusiastics in Ukraina? We have Ladakerho in Finland. We're having several country wide meetings in a year and few more local meetings.

Are Lada/VAZ common in nowaday's Ukraine? We used to have very good amount of Lada's in the 1980's, but number of them ceased in the 1990's. Our Lada importer is Delta Auto, but they hasn't been imprted any cars since 2010.

[KILL@ 24]

Is there a lot of Lada/VAZ enthusiastics in Ukraina? We have Ladakerho in Finland. We're having several country wide meetings in a year and few more local meetings.

there are lots of them in Ukraine! Lada 2108 also is used in Ukrainian rally competitions and circuit racing by professional pilots nowdays. Some of this pilots you can see in the userlist of our Forum.

Are Lada/VAZ common in nowaday's Ukraine? We used to have very good amount of Lada's in the 1980's, but number of them ceased in the 1990's. Our Lada importer is Delta Auto, but they hasn't been imprted any cars since 2010.

There are many VAZ cars in Ukraine . Some of them are imported from Russia ( Kalina, Priora, Samara2 and others) some of them are produced in Ukraine ( 21093, 21099, 2110, 2107.....) .

It is good that Lada owners have autoclubs not only in countries of former USSR but also in European countries. Our club is the biggest Lada owners club in Ukraine, and we arrange local meetings every week in Kyiv and some other big cities of our country. But our club is not only for Lada owners, we are welcome people who had LADAs in the past and now has more modern cars and people who are interested in autosport in Ukraine. We arrange Independent Rally Series ( arranged by our user ValerKAT) rally competition among amateur drivers and also some of our users take part in othel local professional and amateur competetions. Its a pity that you dont know Russian language and you need to translate our Forum by translator, because there are lots of information about our sports achievements, about Lada tuning, repairing and other useful information.

[manni 0]

It's nice to hear that you're having also a good Lada clubs.

Lada Club of Finland is open to everyone. You don't have to own Lada, it's enough if you feel you're driving Lada In year 2009 we had 720 members from around the Finland.

Delta Auto (formerly Konela) had imported Lada cars from the beginning of 70's to year 2010. They imported all kinds of rear wheel drive models, Niva, Samara, 110 series and Kalina series. We never had a chance to buy a Kalina. In year 2010 they just stopped importing them. Nowadays Delta Auto wants to import Kia cars to us and not the quality Russian cars. Rear wheel drive models were a huge success in sales and they were on top of new car sales. Samara was also very popular from the middle of 80's to beginning of the 90's.

Lada Club of Finland is making also very much co-operation with other Eastern car clubs in Finland. We are having "Idän ihmeet" every summer, a weekend in camping area with a lots of different Eastern car enhusiastics.

[T5-R 1]

Is there a lot of Lada/VAZ enthusiastics in Ukraina? We have Ladakerho in Finland. We're having several country wide meetings in a year and few more local meetings.

Hello and best greetings from Lviv, a city in western Ukraine, we also have our own local fans club lada smara http://zubylo.lviv.ua/

We will be glad if you register on our forum!

You are welcome !

P.S. sorry for my mistakes in grammar

Изменено 9 января, 2011 пользователем T5-R

[bojkodima 0]

народ не знаю как вам, а балкико

народ не знаю как вам, а балкикой очень даже доволен. попала она ко мне в семью еще в далеком 99-м году, мне тогда было всего 9 лет)) машина сама 97-го, в украину приехала своим ходом с салона. папик откатался на ней 390 тысяч за 5 лет, потом дядя еще 150 4 года, и я уже полтора года катаюсь, проехал 50 тысяч. для пробега в 690 тысяч- 4-й капремонт мотора, 2-я покраска, раз была в аварии. ходовая в отличном состоянии, в салоне уютно, нече не торохтит, не ревет, крыша на голову не падает. да, кузов действительно был оцинкован, но после аварии и первой покраски как и у всех 9-ок начала гнить задняя ляда, потом была замечена ржавчина в области дверей. ходя до первого ремонта никаких дефектов кузова не замечалось, да и мастера что красили говорили что она теперь начнет гнить не смотря не на какие обработки кузова. на момент второго ремонта кузова дырок в кузове небыло, но ржавчина появилась. щас катаюсь, расход 7 литров по городу, 6 по трасе. тоесть машина довольно экономная. на фоне новых инжекторных 9-к, 10, и 15-х по ускорению они мне уступают. машиной и папик и дядя были очень довольны, и я очень доволен. продавать не собираюсь))))

[Андрюха М 0]

Как небыло карбюраторных, агде они тогда взялись? У меня карб. салон балтика с наруже и с нутри, уселители в дверях, электроника бошовская, по номеру кузова тоже сходитца так как это обяснить??? Если надо могу фотки скинуть.

[User2108 46]

Как небыло карбюраторных, агде они тогда взялись? У меня карб. салон балтика с наруже и с нутри, уселители в дверях, электроника бошовская, по номеру кузова тоже сходитца так как это обяснить??? Если надо могу фотки скинуть.

давай фото!

карб там может быть только, если пред. хозяин инжектор выкинул

Изменено 15 марта, 2011 пользователем User2108